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My letter to Congress

Sat Mar 6, 2010 9:57 AM EST
health, health-care, health-insurance, reform, health-care-bill
By khurley54
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I seeded this blog post, and wrote this as my summary, but I wanted to include it as an article also.

http://khurley54.wordpress.com/

This is a blog post, complete with links to the references I site, of a letter I just wrote to my reps in Congress. I'm not saying we need to be bipartisan on health care, that ain't gonna happen, but there is a disparity in the views different groups hold on the state of our health care system. I find this very questionable in light of the cold hard facts that the US is ranked 37th in the world yet we spend more on our health care than any other country. People in this country are terrified of a public option, and I'd like to emphasize OPTION, yet in France where they have socialized health care they are ranked #1 in the world. Also I cannot stand the demonization of the left by the right and of the right by the left. I think the right is wrong and I do not agree with them, that is why I am a liberal. I honestly and completely objectively can say that I see way more extremism, fear, hatred, and misinformation generated on the right and I don't see any of their leaders stepping up to try to quell it. I personally do not want my country ripped apart, and I think that people need to realize that as much as we disagree with and maybe even hate the other side, there does need to be more than one party in this country and we need to stop simply trying to take the other down.

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mstanley2265

This is the very point that I'm concerned about too...it seems to be encompassing all areas not just health reform when congress is in session.."I personally do not want my country ripped apart,"

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Reply#1 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 10:30 AM EST
khurley54

The increase in extremism is especially disconcerting, especially under the guise of patriotism. It's a mob mentality and people aren't stopping to listen to the facts; those "in the know" on that side of extremism are misconstruing the facts and stoking the fires. People are being told to run in fear in a certain direction and they just are without any valid idea about what they are running from.

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Reply#2 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 11:53 AM EST
TopJedi

"Ripped apart" takes many forms.

With the foolishness of just Bush and Obama we have quadrupled the DEBT of our great nation from all the cumulative spending of every president COMBINED in the history of the United States.

Friday the CBO (Congressional Budget Office) reported an upward revision of $1.2 Trillion that Obama's spending will put us at a Deficit of $9.8 Trillion in 10 years. DEFICIT of $9.8 Trillion -- that is almost equal to the insane DEBT of $10.5 Trillion that Bush gave Obama and that is just DEFICIT spending by Obama.

We don't even have to look at CBO projections into the future... our current $1.8 Trillion DEFICIT is greater than all the cumulative DEBT in the history of the United States up to Ronald Reagan. We are spending into the hole annually what we had once been horrified by as a DEBT level.

If the concern simply remains how well Dems and Repubs get along on their spending agendas then we truly will see what a country looks like when it is financially "Ripped apart."

Meanwhile I hope everyone gets healthcare like the President, and an airplane like his, and cars like his, and maybe even a house like the president... so we can all finally "get along."

  • 2 votes
Reply#3 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 12:19 PM EST
khurley54

I don't think both sides will ever really get along, but it's the extreme demonization of fellow countrymen by people who tout themselves as patriots that bothers me.

Nobody likes the spending or the deficit and the numbers are alarming, it's very very true. But that's the point, it's alarming and not too many people get past being alarmed and consider the alternative. Without the spending we would be waaaaay worse off. The deficit stinks, I'm sure Obama thinks so too. But what are we supposed to do?

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Reply#4 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 2:23 PM EST
Jim Dent

Meanwhile I hope everyone gets healthcare like the President, and an airplane like his, and cars like his, and maybe even a house like the president... so we can all finally "get along."

Kinda reinforcing Khurleys point there Top. Comments like that don't really help solve the problem... they just add to the background noise level.

Top, the White House and the CBO claim that, in the long run, this reform will help to actually reduce the deficit. Your thoughts on that?

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#4.1 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 3:57 PM EST
TopJedi

Yes I am a bit cynical these days Jim when I constantly hear that we all should get whatever the President has despite the obvious lack of money and growing reluctance of buyers at our t-bill auctions in the face of increasing debt and annual budget deficits over $1.8 trillion.

We are all equal but if we are going to pull this off we need the President to adjust his spending budgets (of taxpayer money) down to the level of our neighbors and not all of our neighbors to the level of our presidents.

Jim, I don't know where the CBO ever said this spending will reduce the deficit? This past Friday they just revised the 10 year deficit loss projection upwards as I mentioned above to $9.8 Trillion.

I don't know what the long run is to which they refer but 10 years is about as long as our country plans for and the idea that annual budget shortfalls (Deficits) will reach $9.8 trillion in 10 years and match our current DEBT (inherited from Bush) is what I call a very bad omen of things to come.

But then again I suppose if people understood that the total DEBT under Reagan would be matched annually just in Deficit spending under Obama for going on two years now it might concern them. But the cummulative debt of all the presidents in history up to Reagan doesn't mean much to people these days as just the DEBT ceiling adjustments we are giving ourselves are more than all those past presidents every accumulated.

Call it background noise... I'm against all the spenders like Bush and Obama who are so nearsighted as to placate the masses in short term spending without a damn for our futures. Take care Jim, stay out of debt and be a truly free American.

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#4.2 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 6:48 PM EST
khurley54

drastic times call for drastic measures

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#4.3 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 10:07 PM EST
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RockyRagamuffin

Personal jets, special cars, and big, white houses aren't moral issues. Accessible and affordable health care is.

Nobody is saying the only concern is to "get along". Congress shouldn't "get along" on a political level. There needs to be proper debate to ensure proper legislation. It's when party leaders and representatives make up or exaggerate facts to instill fear, which leads to hate, which leads to the dark side (I learned that from the Jedi). I think we can all agree that that is a form of our country becoming "ripped apart" that nobody wants.

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Reply#5 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 3:29 PM EST
TopJedi

There is a fear that is a reasonable consequence of decades of bad financial choices.

No it is not a run in the streets naked screaming frothing hateful kind of zombieland fear, that is an equal exaggeration of the examples I share concerning our debt and the desires for spending us out of debt and taxing us into prosperity in this country.

The trouble is that both parties are completely guilty of overspending and hypocrites in government will neither lead by example or ever make the right decision if it is unpopular or difficult. That is my fear and the whole reasonable extent of it.

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#5.1 - Sat Mar 6, 2010 6:55 PM EST
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Steve-1671597

Well folks, let's talk budget, shall we? What about the trillion dollar deficet awarded this nation by G.W.? I know we had to support the war effort, but- hey!,wait just a minute....please tell me again exactly what it was that Iraq did to this nation that required us to invade them???? I cannot, for the life of me, remember! I do remember that the Afghani Taliban and Al-Queda are responsible for the deaths of those brave Americans that chose to fight back on that doomed flight that crashed in Penna, and for the bombing of our Pentagon building ,as well as for the devastation that became New York on 09-11-01. BUT...BUT BUT, while G.W. and his able attack dog Cheney, along with thier Right Republican ilk tried to burn the HORROR of 09-11-01 into our national fabric, as if they needed to, they really did a supurb job of changing focus onto Iraq, and ended up bringing Americans to blame them for something they did not do. Just ask RUDY G. That other misguided fool who stated that this country had never experienced a terrorist attack on American soil since G.W. took office... Well just who was that masked man that was reading to the young Floridians on that horrific day?? When Chief of staff Andy Card wispered into that presidential ear, a look of absolute befuddlement crossed the face of the most powerful man in the known universe. I remember thinking, as much as I was able to think during those indescribable hours, Wow!! how very presidential....and then the shock wore off and I then thought, that if the American press valued the prestige of our nation in the world, they would never show that sequence again when G.W. first got the word of what had happened. My Good God...the kids he was reading to looked more presidential that he. But old Rudy STILL holds fast to his falsehoods

This is but one thing that I wish were explained to me.. as for the rest of it, the fear mongering and the false information that resulted in the resignation of a man that I respect greatly, in the person of Sec. Colon Powell, and in the process made a fool of this country in front of the world, all of that I think can be explained by the actions of Rice, and most in particular Cheney. The poor man would know the truth if it hit him in the face with a shovel....but I digress...Just listen to him today with his fear mongering and out and out contempt for the present administration...you know, the one that in six months in office did more to promote Ameriocan values over the entire world the G.W. and Cheney did in eight years.... Think about it... and if you can...Please let me know if anyone can come up with the reason we invaded Iraq....Just curious But rest assured, that when G.W. came into office they had a several billion dollar SURPLUS..a word we haven't even heard in over eight years..So let's talk budget and dollars and sense...Has anyone ever heard of HALIBURTON ?

Anyway...this 54 person seems to have a pretty good handle on things...at the VERY LEAST...she doesn't appear to be one that is led to slaughter as do so many that listen to Cheney and Rush @!$%#bar.. God Bless us all no matter what we hold in our hearts, and please God , Bless this,our America! Please keep it safe and secure for all of our posterity.

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Reply#6 - Tue Mar 9, 2010 1:56 PM EST
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